We have what we have and build from there.

Suspect that if additional info comes in with S/N's and date
codes, we can build a picture of the lot number(s).

Maybe not limited to Eagle...we will just have to wait and see.

It is 'my opinion' towards forged for any 'built' engine of 'mine'.
I'll not use a cast iron crank except on a pretty stock engine.

My 1980 Silverado C10 has a 'built' 350 was done by a buddy's
speed shop. Hands on building by me is a few decades ago. I just
spec it out these days : shotpeen all iron parts except for the cam (block,
heads, crank, rods, etc and don't allow it to get hot). Head has been
flow matched, polished, pinned to the intake manifold, stainless
valves with higher rate springs, etc. Yes, a forged crank with
4 bolt mains.

Also a performer dual plane, but went with their carb and think
should have stuck with the Q-jet.

Worked 350 with HD clutches, shift kit and kept the lock up
vacuum actuated. Over sized U-Joints with a new drive shaft.

3.73 12 bolt, but still worried about that being the weak link.

Just blew the passenger side head gasket. Knew it was about
time, as this was both daughters daily through high school.
Used to catch #2 beating up Mustangs on the local boulevard.

Getting on that 350 will have higher stress levels than when
getting on my 1996 Suburban's 7.4L (bone stock innards)

well finally got the old crank back and here is the proof. another eagle crank just like the rest of em. there's a problem here.........
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cannot post pics as they are not already on the internet??? does anyone have a clue cause i don't

Email them to me patrick(at)pswired(dot)com and I will put them on the web for you. Or get an account at photobucket, etc.

ok pswired i sent you the pics labled broken eagle crankshaft thomasricci if you would post these i would be stoked dude [/quote]

note here are some numbers off the most front counter weight. the laser etched numbers not the stamped numbers on the snout of the crank. ok, the numbers are "383-ci eagle bird S-07-04-029" this looks like some date number i think 2007 the fourth month and the 29th day???? maybe what are the numbers of the other cranks?????


also on the snout of the crank, around where the center bolt goes for the harmonic balancer the numbers are stampped and they read as, 071(on top)773(on the bottom)4(to the left) of center........

I did some digging and found the rotating assy "kit" serial #3483 and it said it was ground 58/20 whatever that means
the only other # was 10352375057I which i think was the part # of what I originally bought.

I think I am going to send the new parts Brian sent me(since I can't use them) along with the rest of the rotating assembly(rods/pistons) back to Eagle with a letter explaining my dissatisfaction with their customer service and that they had a chance to repair my confidence in their product and keep a loyal customer (along with others online)by making sure they did what was necessary to back their product and reputation and make someone with whom their product failed on, feel confident in using their products again in their engine.It could have been a win/win situation but that was left totally in Brian's hands, and in my "opinion" he failed me and his company's reputation.

I could sell those parts... maybe....and make a few dollars but the whole thing is a total loss so I would feel better sending the whole package back and even paying the shipping once more to just make my point to them.(which they could probably care less it seems)
Robby

Someone asked about Eagle cranks on another site, and I provided my opinion. Here is a response.

I know lots of products are farmed out overseas, and that is really true with Eagle. They get them in, rebox them in Eagle boxes, with ZERO quality checks, then ship them out to the customer. They said its cheaper to refund or replace the defective products than it is to inspect every piece they get in from their vendors.

Pretty sad state of affairs.

peace
Hog

ya but eagle is not even refunding or replacing broken parts all they are saying is toooooooo baaaaad buuuudddyyyy ................

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this crank shaft will be sitting on the sales counter of mopac performance in edmonton alberts canada!!!!!!

THAT SURE LOOKS FAMILIAR!!!!!
its sad they really don't realize how this is affecting them... when a little effort on their part could go a really long way in the eyes of A LOT of people.
It would seem that they would "try" to imagine being in the customers shoes and realizing that the "customer" is the one out a lot of time, money, and down time, from their defective product. Not them..... By reference what do you think would hurt them more Bad customer service and unveiling their bad product online to millions of people OR taking a little effort and not much out of their profit margin and giving OR selling a better(steel) crank(at a discount to a customer who is out a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE OF THEIR PRODUCT.
It seems like it's a no brainer to me.... but we all have opinions I guess
Robby

i agree man, and what if an unsuspecting driver who happens to have a manual trans were to have a failure at highway speeds. it could be faital....i guess someone has to die before old brian was to get his ass up from his desk and do sompthin.........

this product obviously has a flaw in its design and should be yanked from the stock room shelves...my machinest says it the hole drilled threw the rod journal of the crank that makes it weak...........beware that scat is also starting to do this too internaly balance their rotating assemblies.

when i look at it i can see a small cross sectional area of metal this is a very weak design even with out the hole...

While this is certainly an unfortunate situation, it does exhibit how the Internet (invented by Al Gore) is just terrific at getting problems announced, examined, and analyzed. In this Eagle crank issue, Ben posted right up;



And, I posted up;




And, here is Thomas' crank;


That looks ominously similar. There is some fault in where they drill the journal, or in the casting at that location.

The above picture Makoi posted is Thomas' crank and look at mine..... the same break

what direction does the crank turn from this view of the above pics posted by robby????

also keep in mind that cylinders 2 then 1 fire directly after one another.....

i am looking for reasoning for the breakage and how it is slopped on the right side of the pic and how the contured break lines fall to the right..

the pulses of energy from the cylinders are distriduted between the two main journals of the block on either side of the #1&#2 rod journal of the crank..

it seams as though the break is tensile on the left and torsional on the right, meaning that it initialy failed on the left of the pic.....

if the hole threw the rod journal was not there imagine the extra material accross that cross sectional spot..also there would be no contures for the torsional energy to change path around, thus causing exsesive stresses at that location and causing this break. obviously an engineering flaw and these were obviously not real world tested or they would have discovered this flaw.

is eagle apart of any type of business accociasion like a chamber of commerce, or a state commerce group.?????

anyone reading this from the same state or more importantly the same communications network as eagles geographic location. to clearify what internet provider and or cable, telephone provider is eagles geographic in, and is there anyone who is in the same area.......?

someone who is in that area will have deeper info of that company on the internet......?

commerce associasions local bussines groups eagles commerce network.....

lets inform these groups...........