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99bluetahoe
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 505
Location: Fremont, CA 1999 2dr Tahoe 4wd, stock, awaiting engine transplant
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 Turbo Yukon
Anyone have any specs on this yukon.
383 STROKER WITH 88 TURBO 13LBS BOOST LAUNCH 23LBS DOWN TRACK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No32RDkDCoo&feature=related
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:39 pm |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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Well look at that, hey Speeder, a 10s small block Yukon...
I do not believe my eye. It is not a S-10...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEjmDbBY5cY
Maybe you can email him:
His name is Harry??
http://www.youtube.com/user/HARRYGzzz
Found more info here:
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?p=572622
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:34 pm |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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World's Fastest 2WD Yukon Boosted Street Truck!
Tuned & Driven by Harry Anderson in Video.
Truck's Owner Elwin. Unfornately Harry broke the Rear on the last pass. So in with the Ford Nine Inch Rear.
Specs 4900lbs Stock 350 block with Stroker kit, AFR Heads, Air2Air Intercooler, Big Turbo, 400 Turbo W/Brake, FAST ECU.
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:42 pm |
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99bluetahoe
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
Posts: 505
Location: Fremont, CA 1999 2dr Tahoe 4wd, stock, awaiting engine transplant
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:50 pm |
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JR96CK
Joined: 03 Apr 1998
Posts: 654
Location: Texas
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Awesome ride. That last video would be excellent without the stupid music all the way through it. All I want to hear is exhaust note and turbo spool.
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:56 pm |
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Scottie
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 184
Location: Jersey
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Unless that motor is a completely new install, don't believe anything saying that makes any mention of "stock"! LOL! Factory block maybe more appropriate. That Yuk is built with BIG $$$$. Atco is my backyard and that beast is pretty well known. Not a street legal either.
Would be fun to see that race the local 9-second GMC Typhoon, but I think the owner retired it. Was always street legal but ditched the AWD to get into the 9s.
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:13 pm |
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Speeder
Joined: 30 Apr 1999
Posts: 7037
Location: 00 Silverado 4x4 for the 'ol lady 99 Toyota Sienna for me, for now 99/01 Corollas for the kids
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99bluetahoe wrote:At the end of this video is where he broke the rear end.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Boosted-Yukon-Gone-Wild_166293.htm
Hey Crazyhoe - I never said it couldn't be done, I said that it would be expensive and unreliable. You know, like the end of this video  . That was also the lightest of that type of SUV, the 2 door 2WD.
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:12 pm |
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James B.
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Joined: 03 Apr 1997
Posts: 2162
Location: '99 Tahoe, Vortec 454, 4L80-E, GV-OD, 4.56 Eaton 14bolt
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Neat truck but whoever edited that video completely ruined everything - PAINful to watch.
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| Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:14 pm |
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s10mods
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1344
Location: 93 Yukon 6.0/4L80E 9" lift 4.88's 37's, 01 Grand Pirx GTP, 95 Yukon GT 6.0/80E in progress
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CrazyHoe wrote:Well look at that, hey Speeder, a 10s small block Yukon...
I do not believe my eye. It is not a S-10...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEjmDbBY5cY
Maybe you can email him:
His name is Harry??
http://www.youtube.com/user/HARRYGzzz
Found more info here:
http://forums.trailvoy.com/showthread.php?p=572622
yea, but think if it had a big block? probably would be in the single digits.
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:23 am |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:39 am |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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Ok seriously now, that was a little bit of a reality check. That looks like a pretty violent launch. I wonder what he did to the frame to take all that torque.. If anything at all?
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:15 am |
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s10mods
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1344
Location: 93 Yukon 6.0/4L80E 9" lift 4.88's 37's, 01 Grand Pirx GTP, 95 Yukon GT 6.0/80E in progress
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:38 am |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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s10mods wrote:
I know, small blocks are plenty, but then think of more boost on a big block. remember there is no replacement for displacement. 
I believe that truck is pushing in excess of that elusive 1000 hp.
Big B's are easily capable of big hp, but they rotate heavy parts all the time and pump lot's of air all the time.
To make big power, you need to "displace" lot's of air and there's different ways of doing that.
Just using mechanics, air and fuel.
You can use a big engine to pump lot's of air: suck lot's ...
You can use a smaller engine, but rev it faster: suck lot's faster...
Or you can use a small engine and force feed it: suck, blow....  The best!
I like the later cause you can have big power on demand, yet remain fuel efficient when cruising.
I'm guessing a 400 would need 25-28 psi boost to make 1000hp... Yikes!
And like Speeder said, the challenge is reliability... and probably detonation problems..
From howstuffworks:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti.htm
The Bugatti Veyron is a car built around an engine. Essentially, Bugatti made the decision to blow the doors off the supercar world by creating a 1,000-horsepower engine. Everything else follows from that resolution.
So let's start with the engine. How would you begin the design process for an engine this powerful? If you have read How Car Engines Work, you know that if you want to create a 1,000-horsepower engine, it has to be able to burn enough gasoline to generate 1,000 horsepower. That works out to about 1.33 gallons (5 liters) of gasoline per minute.
How much gas is that?
* 1,000 horsepower is equivalent to roughly 2.6 billion joules per hour. A gallon (3.8 liters) of gasoline contains 132 million joules, so a 1,000-hp engine has to be able to burn just over 20 gallons of gasoline per hour.
* However, car engines are only about one-quarter efficient -- three quarters of the gasoline's energy escapes as heat rather than as power to the wheels. So the engine actually has to be able to burn at least 80 gallons per hour, or 1.33 gallons (5 liters) per minute.
* Let's convert over to metric. Gasoline requires about 14.7 kilograms of air to burn 1 kilogram of gas. Air weighs 1.222 kilograms per cubic meter at sea level. A gallon of gasoline weighs 2.84 kilograms. So the engine has to be able to process 2.84*1.33*14.7 kilograms of air per minute, or roughly 45 cubic meters of air per minute. That's 45,000 liters of air per minute.
* If a V-8 engine is turning at 6,000 rpm, it can inhale a total of 24,000 cylinders' full of air per minute. If it needs to inhale 45,000 liters of air per minute, it works out to roughly 2 liters per cylinder-full. That's a 16-liter engine.
We need a 16-liter engine to burn 1.33 gallons of gas per minute. That actually makes sense -- the engine in the Dodge Viper is 8.0 liters in displacement and produces 500 hp.
But there's a problem: A 16-liter V-8 engine would be very large. And the pistons would be massive, so there would be no way it could turn at 6,000 rotations per minute (rpm). It might turn at a maximum of 2,000 rpm, meaning that you would need an immense 48-liter engine to generate 1,000 hp. Clearly an engine that big is impossible in a passenger car.
So how did Bugatti fit 1,000 horsepower into a passenger car? Let's find out.
If you have read How Turbochargers Work, you know that one easy way to make an engine more powerful without making the engine bigger is to stuff more air into the cylinders on each intake stroke. Turbochargers do that. A turbo pressurizes the air coming into the cylinder so the cylinder can hold more air.
If you stuff twice as much air in each cylinder, you can burn twice as much gasoline. In reality, it's not quite a perfect ratio like that, but you get the idea. The Bugatti uses a maximum turbo boost of 18 PSI to double the output power of its engine.
Therefore, turbocharging allows Bugatti to cut the size of the engine from 16 liters back down to a more manageable 8 liters.
To generate that much air pressure, the Bugatti requires four separate turbochargers arranged around the engine.
The second thing Bugatti engineers did, both to keep the RPM redline high and to lower lag time when you press the accelerator, was to double the number of cylinders. The Bugatti has a very rare 16-cylinder engine.
There are two easy ways to create a 16-cylinder engine.
* One way would be to put two V-8 engines in-line with each other. You connect the output shaft of the two V-8s together.
* Another would be to put two in-line 8-cylinder engines beside one another.
The latter technique is, in fact, the way Bugatti created its first 16-cylinder cars in the early 20th century.
For the Veyron, Bugatti chose a much more challenging path. Essentially, Bugatti merged two V-8 engines onto one another, and then let both of them share the same crankshaft. This configuration creates the W-16 engine found in the Veyron. The two V's create a W
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:04 am |
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Scottie
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Location: Jersey
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CrazyHoe wrote:
I believe that truck is pushing in excess of that elusive 1000 hp.
Big B's are easily capable of big hp, but they rotate heavy parts all the time and pump lot's of air all the time.
To make big power, you need to "displace" lot's of air and there's different ways of doing that.
Just using mechanics, air and fuel.
You can use a big engine to pump lot's of air: suck lot's ...
You can use a smaller engine, but rev it faster: suck lot's faster...
Or you can use a small engine and force feed it: suck, blow.... The best!
I like the later cause you can have big power on demand, yet remain fuel efficient when cruising.
I'm guessing a 400 would need 25-28 psi boost to make 1000hp... Yikes!
And like Speeder said, the challenge is reliability... and probably detonation problems..
You're getting over my head here, but I can say there used to be a guy that had a big-block Pro-Street C10 pick-em-up that ran Atco. This dude was the mechanical guru a dealer I became friends with grew up with and who designed some go-fast parts for (had crazy knowledge of GM trucks and gave me awesome advice for brakes for my old truck). Anyway, that guy ran a roots blown, carbed 502 that put out over 850HP on pump gas and he would do all the hot rod cruises in it and you'd see the truck everywhere! You never forgot that truck because it was classic candy apple red with gold metallic flake with that blower through the hood and super-fat M/Ts. I heard he also had a direct port nitrous on it that he'd use when not running class and made it an absolute beast on race fuel and with the nitrous intercooling affect, but don't know that for sure... Nice toys the rest of us get to admire!
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:50 pm |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 2385
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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Scottie wrote:Unless that motor is a completely new install, don't believe anything saying that makes any mention of "stock"! LOL! Factory block maybe more appropriate. That Yuk is built with BIG $$$$. Atco is my backyard and that beast is pretty well known. Not a street legal either.
Would be fun to see that race the local 9-second GMC Typhoon, but I think the owner retired it. Was always street legal but ditched the AWD to get into the 9s.
Tuner: Harry Anderson
Owner: Ed Hess
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0611gm_1991_gmc_syclone/index.html
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:03 pm |
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Scottie
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
Posts: 184
Location: Jersey
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CrazyHoe wrote:Scottie wrote:Unless that motor is a completely new install, don't believe anything saying that makes any mention of "stock"! LOL! Factory block maybe more appropriate. That Yuk is built with BIG $$$$. Atco is my backyard and that beast is pretty well known. Not a street legal either.
Would be fun to see that race the local 9-second GMC Typhoon, but I think the owner retired it. Was always street legal but ditched the AWD to get into the 9s.
Tuner: Harry Anderson
Owner: Ed Hess
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0611gm_1991_gmc_syclone/index.html
That one is ready to race Robert (ak.a., Mr. Syclone). He's the Swede with the 8.9X Syclone that's still AWD.
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:32 pm |
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ThunderTT
Joined: 03 Apr 2005
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Location: 97 ECSB 2WD
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:52 pm |
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s10mods
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1344
Location: 93 Yukon 6.0/4L80E 9" lift 4.88's 37's, 01 Grand Pirx GTP, 95 Yukon GT 6.0/80E in progress
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ok you win, I was just giving you crap I am a small block guy myself, I built a 355 in a 2wd truck and beat my brother running a 496 in a 79 4x4. I was running 28" tires and 373 and he ws running 35" tires and 4.10, but I still smoked him
I have seen a mag that had a 454 small block, so with that kind of big block displacement, there is no need. or one could get the LSX block and built a 510 cuibic inch gen III
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 5:31 pm |
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Speeder
Joined: 30 Apr 1999
Posts: 7037
Location: 00 Silverado 4x4 for the 'ol lady 99 Toyota Sienna for me, for now 99/01 Corollas for the kids
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That Bugatti also comes with a seven digit pricetag. That's how they can afford to make that kind of power, yet there's still no guarantee of reliability with that car. That Bugatti displaces 16.4 liters,which works out to 1002 cubic inches. No telling what kind of exotic parts are inside that engine, other than the obvious parts needed to mate two V8s.
This small block for example makes 330HP and 380TQ for 4600 bucks. An extra 3 grand gets you a Whipple but this will only get you an additional 100-150HP.
To get the small block's power up you'll need to get an intercooler, a special cam, smaller pulley, and perhaps a turbocharger IN ADDITION TO the supecharger, and maybe a nitrous spray. All this will get you close to 800HP with the small block, BUT the engine will be very unreliable at the drags. With this kind of stress on that lightweight rotating mass, things will break. Not only this, but the extra turbo, intercooler and nitrous gear will likely weigh more than the difference between a small block and a big block, so now the weight advantage is gone. The there's the extra 3-4 grand in parts you'll need to make the turbo and nitrous in there.
For an extra 2000 you can get this big block which makes 450HP and 550TQ. A simple Whipple for 6 grand more will get you almost to 800HP and 800TQ, right about where you'll be when you have the small block 'roided to the max, without even getting into the engine internals. NOW you can add headers, a beefy exhaust and a blower cam, and you'll be knock knock knockin' on Heaven's door with 1000HP under your belt.
According to fueleconomy.gov, the 1998 Silverado 5.7L auto is rated at 13/17, not sure what the 8.1 would get in a similar vehicle, should be 11/15. Anyone feel free to correct this. But, for cost of the turbo and nitrous you'd need on the small block you can buy a LOT of gasoline even at 4 bucks a gallon, when the difference is only 2-3MPG.
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| Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:14 pm |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 411,EFIlive, 4L60-E,dual 3" side pipes,next:marine+W
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Speeder wrote:That Bugatti also comes with a seven digit pricetag. That's how they can afford to make that kind of power, yet there's still no guarantee of reliability with that car. That Bugatti displaces 16.4 liters,which works out to 1002 cubic inches. No telling what kind of exotic parts are inside that engine, other than the obvious parts needed to mate two V8s.
This small block for example makes 330HP and 380TQ for 4600 bucks. An extra 3 grand gets you a Whipple but this will only get you an additional 100-150HP.
To get the small block's power up you'll need to get an intercooler, a special cam, smaller pulley, and perhaps a turbocharger IN ADDITION TO the supecharger, and maybe a nitrous spray. All this will get you close to 800HP with the small block, BUT the engine will be very unreliable at the drags. With this kind of stress on that lightweight rotating mass, things will break. Not only this, but the extra turbo, intercooler and nitrous gear will likely weigh more than the difference between a small block and a big block, so now the weight advantage is gone. The there's the extra 3-4 grand in parts you'll need to make the turbo and nitrous in there.
For an extra 2000 you can get this big block which makes 450HP and 550TQ. A simple Whipple for 6 grand more will get you almost to 800HP and 800TQ, right about where you'll be when you have the small block 'roided to the max, without even getting into the engine internals. NOW you can add headers, a beefy exhaust and a blower cam, and you'll be knock knock knockin' on Heaven's door with 1000HP under your belt.
According to fueleconomy.gov, the 1998 Silverado 5.7L auto is rated at 13/17, not sure what the 8.1 would get in a similar vehicle, should be 11/15. Anyone feel free to correct this. But, for cost of the turbo and nitrous you'd need on the small block you can buy a LOT of gasoline even at 4 bucks a gallon, when the difference is only 2-3MPG.
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