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Anyone know how much power the L35 S-10 converter will take? I really don't wanna spend big money on a converter right now but also don't wanna blow it up. I'll keep the stock in there if thats the cause.

I figure something better than stock right now cause when this motor goes I'll be puttin in a 6.0

1997 C1500 5.7 Vortec
4L60E, vette servo, shift kit, stock stall

It put down 324hp to the Wheels and 450 in torque

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There's no problem with the v6 4L80e version.

IMO
Probably your 4L60e will go before the tc.
Same size tc on a 4l60e should handle the same power.
The differance should only be in the angle of the vanes to change stall rpm

stroker97k1500 wrote:
CrazyHoe wrote:
stroker97k1500 wrote:
Blown Rat rules


Would you recommend the 4.3 V6 / 4L80e torque converter for a BBC?


I would 100%
I had that v6TC and beat the living hell out of it. A 350 with marine intake, 383 marine intake, 454, 454 with Whipple, and then 460 with Whipple all on the 4l80e with v6 TC. It's tough and just works.
One thing I would disagree is on the 3.42:1 rear end ratio. I had this as well as the 3.73:1.
The big block has enough low end torque to make the 3.42:1 work well for a highway gear unlike the huge lack of low end torque of ANY LSX motor. The low end torque of the bigblock along with the V6 TC keeping the rpms higher slightly, overcomes the tall 1st gear of the 4L80e also.
The 3.73:1 does help with acceleration but is not quite as necerssary as if you had a weaker (on the low end)LSX style motor.


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There's no problem with the v6 4L80e version.

IMO
Probably your 4L60e will go before the tc.
Same size tc on a 4l60e should handle the same power.
The differance should only be in the angle of the vanes to change stall rpm

stroker97k1500 wrote:
CrazyHoe wrote:
stroker97k1500 wrote:
Blown Rat rules


Would you recommend the 4.3 V6 / 4L80e torque converter for a BBC?


I would 100%
I had that v6TC and beat the living hell out of it. A 350 with marine intake, 383 marine intake, 454, 454 with Whipple, and then 460 with Whipple all on the 4l80e with v6 TC. It's tough and just works.
One thing I would disagree is on the 3.42:1 rear end ratio. I had this as well as the 3.73:1.
The big block has enough low end torque to make the 3.42:1 work well for a highway gear unlike the huge lack of low end torque of ANY LSX motor. The low end torque of the bigblock along with the V6 TC keeping the rpms higher slightly, overcomes the tall 1st gear of the 4L80e also.
The 3.73:1 does help with acceleration but is not quite as necerssary as if you had a weaker (on the low end)LSX style motor.




Thanks for that info! I'm only wanting a little higher stall than my factory TC. 2000 - 2400 would be great IMO. I think imma get one and give it a shot. I daily drive it and rarely see the track but I'd like to add it to the mix. Now I have read that I would need to order the same year model TC as my truck ? Or would you happen to have a part number handy ? I figure I could just put the S-10 info into O Reillys website and get one from them huh ?

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I've been running that converter for over 10 years and I beat on it almost daily and never had any problems, I love the feel of it over the stock converter

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I've been running that converter for over 10 years and I beat on it almost daily and never had any problems, I love the feel of it over the stock converter



That's what I like to hear! Do i need to order the same year model as my truck ? Can I just put in the oreillys website 1997 Chevy S10 4.3 and use the converter it pulls up ?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/transmission---transaxle-16780/torque-converter-12781

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I just used their drill down menus and came up with the DCLF TC that you want.

I beat the shift out mine, I could get about 2800 of brake stall.

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I just used their drill down menus and came up with the DCLF TC that you want.

I beat the shift out mine, I could get about 2800 of brake stall.

peace
Hog



This is from O reilly's website.. $149.99 Seem right ?
Just wanna make sure, Seemed pretty Cheap! lol


Pro-King - Torque Converter
Part #: GM35CW Line: PRO

Torque Converter Transmission Code:
4L60-E; 4 Speed Transmission; Lock Up;
12 Inch Diameter; 30 Splines; 1.703 Inch Pilot;
Slotted Hub; 3 Lug Mount; 10.7 Inch Bolt Circle;
Stall: 1800; Use With ECCC System; Code: DCLF, DCNF

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Hog wrote:
I just used their drill down menus and came up with the DCLF TC that you want.

I beat the shift out mine, I could get about 2800 of brake stall.

peace
Hog



This is from O reilly's website.. $149.99 Seem right ?
Just wanna make sure, Seemed pretty Cheap! lol


Pro-King - Torque Converter
Part #: GM35CW Line: PRO

Torque Converter Transmission Code:
4L60-E; 4 Speed Transmission; Lock Up;
12 Inch Diameter; 30 Splines; 1.703 Inch Pilot;
Slotted Hub; 3 Lug Mount; 10.7 Inch Bolt Circle;
Stall: 1800; Use With ECCC System; Code: DCLF, DCNF


You have to ensure that you get the proper Torque Converter Clutch material, either on/off, early PWM or PWN with ECCC or EC3.
Some more info on the TCC apply strategies.
http://www.not2fast.com/megashift/incoming/T3-JP-900.pdf

Some info on the 4 digit TC code

"""GM RWD Torque Converters

Starting 1980-up, GM used a 4-digit ID sticker located on the converter body to help identify it. Below is a guide to help decipher it's meaning.

1st Digit (application trans)
•B -- THM250C, THM350C
•C -- 200C, 2004R, Pre-1984 1/2: 325-4L & 700r4
•D -- 1984 1/2-up 700r4, 4L60, 4L60-E

2nd Digit (approx stall, depends on engine)
•B -- 2025 rpm
•C -- 2075 rpm
•E -- 1654 rpm
•F -- 1611 rpm
•G -- 1397 rpm
•H -- 1397 rpm
•K -- 1211 rpm
•L -- 1654 rpm

3rd Digit (Clutch Assembly)
•3 -- Poppet Valve
•7 -- Poppet Valve
•9 -- Poppet Valve
•A -- Red (pre-96)
•A -- Carbon (96-up)
•B -- Static Open
•G -- Carbon Fiber
•H -- Red (pre-96)
•H -- Carbon (96-97)
•H -- Woven Graphite (98-up)
•L -- Carbon Fiber
•N -- Woven Graphite
•P -- Woven Graphite

4th Digit (Body Mounting)
•C -- 3 round lugs, gas engine
•D -- 3 round lugs, diesel engine
•E -- 6 round lugs, gas or diesel
•F -- 3 square pads, gas or diesel
•G -- 3 square pads, gas or diesel

If there is no ID tag, there might be a number or letter stamped between the dimples of the impeller on the converter body.
•4 -- 1211 stall
•5 -- Medium or high stall (depends on stator)
•6 -- 1397 stall
•7 -- 1654 stall
•C -- 2075 stall
•H -- 1397 stall
•K -- 1211 stall
•L -- 1654 stall

From here: http://www.gmtuners.com/gmtransinfo.htm """""""""
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Here' s the article that showed me about the L35 TC.
http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/THE%20HERD%20Torque%20Converter%20Upgrade.htm

They use P/n 24202310 for the 1995+ L35 TC.

The TC you have selected says its for ECCC TCC lockup strategies and your 1997 truck may or may not have the ECCC strategy, but I cant say for sure.


peace
Hog

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Hog wrote:
97VortecChevy wrote:
Hog wrote:
I just used their drill down menus and came up with the DCLF TC that you want.

I beat the shift out mine, I could get about 2800 of brake stall.

peace
Hog



This is from O reilly's website.. $149.99 Seem right ?
Just wanna make sure, Seemed pretty Cheap! lol


Pro-King - Torque Converter
Part #: GM35CW Line: PRO

Torque Converter Transmission Code:
4L60-E; 4 Speed Transmission; Lock Up;
12 Inch Diameter; 30 Splines; 1.703 Inch Pilot;
Slotted Hub; 3 Lug Mount; 10.7 Inch Bolt Circle;
Stall: 1800; Use With ECCC System; Code: DCLF, DCNF


You have to ensure that you get the proper Torque Converter Clutch material, either on/off, early PWM or PWN with ECCC or EC3.
Some more info on the TCC apply strategies.
http://www.not2fast.com/megashift/incoming/T3-JP-900.pdf

Some info on the 4 digit TC code

"""GM RWD Torque Converters

Starting 1980-up, GM used a 4-digit ID sticker located on the converter body to help identify it. Below is a guide to help decipher it's meaning.

1st Digit (application trans)
•B -- THM250C, THM350C
•C -- 200C, 2004R, Pre-1984 1/2: 325-4L & 700r4
•D -- 1984 1/2-up 700r4, 4L60, 4L60-E

2nd Digit (approx stall, depends on engine)
•B -- 2025 rpm
•C -- 2075 rpm
•E -- 1654 rpm
•F -- 1611 rpm
•G -- 1397 rpm
•H -- 1397 rpm
•K -- 1211 rpm
•L -- 1654 rpm

3rd Digit (Clutch Assembly)
•3 -- Poppet Valve
•7 -- Poppet Valve
•9 -- Poppet Valve
•A -- Red (pre-96)
•A -- Carbon (96-up)
•B -- Static Open
•G -- Carbon Fiber
•H -- Red (pre-96)
•H -- Carbon (96-97)
•H -- Woven Graphite (98-up)
•L -- Carbon Fiber
•N -- Woven Graphite
•P -- Woven Graphite

4th Digit (Body Mounting)
•C -- 3 round lugs, gas engine
•D -- 3 round lugs, diesel engine
•E -- 6 round lugs, gas or diesel
•F -- 3 square pads, gas or diesel
•G -- 3 square pads, gas or diesel

If there is no ID tag, there might be a number or letter stamped between the dimples of the impeller on the converter body.
•4 -- 1211 stall
•5 -- Medium or high stall (depends on stator)
•6 -- 1397 stall
•7 -- 1654 stall
•C -- 2075 stall
•H -- 1397 stall
•K -- 1211 stall
•L -- 1654 stall

From here: http://www.gmtuners.com/gmtransinfo.htm """""""""
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Here' s the article that showed me about the L35 TC.
http://www.corvettefaq.com/c3/THE%20HERD%20Torque%20Converter%20Upgrade.htm

They use P/n 24202310 for the 1995+ L35 TC.

The TC you have selected says its for ECCC TCC lockup strategies and your 1997 truck may or may not have the ECCC strategy, but I cant say for sure.


peace
Hog



That's a good read on the article about the L35.. I was hoping someone would have the part number to the that unit

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