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That looks a lot like the test mule for the Quad 4 engine that we built here in Lansing. I think they made a high speed record with it or something. Would have been back in the early 90's before Oldsmobile went away.

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but, if you notice, there are a lot of design cues from this car in todays current vette......


True, but it's small details that make a huge difference. Look at the 55 Bel Air and the 56 Bel Air. I wouldn't mind having a 55 but would not buy a 56. Just because of the little bit of a fin in the back. 57? Not a chance, for me. To make that Vette wannabe look good they'd need to chop about 2 feet off the rear end. It looks too much like a flying saucer right now, and who wants to look like a little green man?

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That looks a lot like the test mule for the Quad 4 engine that we built here in Lansing. I think they made a high speed record with it or something. Would have been back in the early 90's before Oldsmobile went away.



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[The Oldsmobile Aerotechs were a series of experimental high-speed vehicles created between 1987 and 1992 incorporating the latest in performance technology with the intention of breaking multiple automobile speed records. The first such car was driven by four-time Indy 500 winner A.J. Foyt to a world closed-course speed record of 257.123 mph (413.788 km/h) on 27 August 1987 at the 7.712-mile (12.411 km) test track near Fort Stockton Texas. Prior to this, on 26 August 1987, the car had posted a top speed over a mile of 267.88 mph (431.10 km/h). The car consisted of a March Indycar single seat chassis enclosed in an extremely efficient aerodynamic body shell. It was powered by a highly turbo-charged version of the 2-litre Oldsmobile Quad 4 engine. The Aerotech body was designed by GM Design staff and was one of the sleekest vehicles ever developed for use on a high speed track. The design of the Aerotech included the capability of adjusting underbody sections to control the distribution of downforce, front to rear. Oldsmobile produced three versions of the original Aerotech to prove the capabilities of the company's Quad 4 engine. Two were short-tailed (ST) versions and one was long-tailed (LT).
[The Oldsmobile Aerotechs were a series of experimental high-speed vehicles created between 1987 and 1992 incorporating the latest in performance technology with the intention of breaking multiple automobile speed records. The first such car was driven by four-time Indy 500 winner A.J. Foyt to a world closed-course speed record of 257.123 mph (413.788 km/h) on 27 August 1987 at the 7.712-mile (12.411 km) test track near Fort Stockton Texas. Prior to this, on 26 August 1987, the car had posted a top speed over a mile of 267.88 mph (431.10 km/h). The car consisted of a March Indycar single seat chassis enclosed in an extremely efficient aerodynamic body shell. It was powered by a highly turbo-charged version of the 2-litre Oldsmobile Quad 4 engine. The Aerotech body was designed by GM Design staff and was one of the sleekest vehicles ever developed for use on a high speed track. The design of the Aerotech included the capability of adjusting underbody sections to control the distribution of downforce, front to rear. Oldsmobile produced three versions of the original Aerotech to prove the capabilities of the company's Quad 4 engine. Two were short-tailed (ST) versions and one was long-tailed (LT).[/i]
Subsequently, between 7 - 15 December 1992, another version of the Aerotech, this time powered by a 4.0 litre Oldsmobile Aurora V8 engine and fitted with lights, broke 47 speed endurance records including the 10000 and 25000 kilometre world speed records. Other national and international speed records ranging from 10 kilometres to 24 hours were accomplished by a team of drivers working 24 hours a day for 8 days. These records were also set at the Fort Stockton test track.[/i]

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Yuck. This would have killed the Corvette.



perhaps for guys like you and me.....but not for the guys they are trying to sell to...

a few changes could make this car pretty sweet looking, i remember way back in school - we had a design challenge, to change any car you want by just using the photos.....i had about 5 modified photos of that car and made it look pretty decent......got me an easy "A" too. lol

but, if you notice, there are a lot of design cues from this car in todays current vette......

CERV (CorporateExperimental Research Vehicle III)

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CERV IIIThe project would become the CERV III (Corporate Engineering Research Vehicle III) was first unveiled in Detroit Automobile Show in January 1986 as the Corvette Indy prototype car. The vehicle featured 4-wheel drive, 4-wheel steering, and CRT cockpit screens. The vehicle was styled by Chief of Chevy III Studio, Jerry Palmer.

In January 1990, CERV III (No. 3) made its debut at the International Auto Show in Detroit. The car's mid-engine V-8 is a 5.7-liter 32-valve, dual-overhead cam LT5, with twin turbos and internal modifications, giving it 650 hp (485 kW), 655 lb·ft (888 N·m)- torque, and a top speed of 225 mph (362 km/h). The car was made of carbon fiber with a fiberglass-finish coating, with estimated price of $300k-400k. Other standard features include computer-controlled active suspension system, ABS braking and traction control, six-speed automatic transmission, all-wheel-drive and four-wheel steering.

CERV III (No. 3) is a playable car in Test Drive III, under the name 'Chevrolet Cerv III', where CERV means 'Corporate Experimental Research Vehicle'.


The CERV 3 also had a naturally aspirated LT5 at some points of its life as well. It also ran a version of the Chev Indy racing V8.

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Ya know, the more you look at that Corvette concept the more it looks like a 4th gen Camaro. The result was the death of the Camaro, as GM stopped selling them due to poor sales. I loved my 3rd gen, but couldn't stand the looks of or riding/driving in the 4th gens.

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Yes, I agree. I'm sure there was some engineering safety design that shrunk the passenger compartment and expanded the body components, but I always thought that the bulged out rear quarters looked just awful. And in the last few years they've adopted the "tranformers" angular edgyness that just looks origami folded to me. I have always been much more partial to smooth lines and curves.



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I have always been much more partial to smooth lines and curves.



Good point!!

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I like where this tread is going...

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The tail looks similiar, but thats about it. Thanks Hog I looked that up right after I said it and found those articles on the Aerotech. That was a big deal for Olds back then, sad to see them go under after all those years.


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z71gmc06 wrote:
That looks a lot like the test mule for the Quad 4 engine that we built here in Lansing. I think they made a high speed record with it or something. Would have been back in the early 90's before Oldsmobile went away.



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[The Oldsmobile Aerotechs were a series of experimental high-speed vehicles created between 1987 and 1992 incorporating the latest in performance technology with the intention of breaking multiple automobile speed records. The first such car was driven by four-time Indy 500 winner A.J. Foyt to a world closed-course speed record of 257.123 mph (413.788 km/h) on 27 August 1987 at the 7.712-mile (12.411 km) test track near Fort Stockton Texas. Prior to this, on 26 August 1987, the car had posted a top speed over a mile of 267.88 mph (431.10 km/h). The car consisted of a March Indycar single seat chassis enclosed in an extremely efficient aerodynamic body shell. It was powered by a highly turbo-charged version of the 2-litre Oldsmobile Quad 4 engine. The Aerotech body was designed by GM Design staff and was one of the sleekest vehicles ever developed for use on a high speed track. The design of the Aerotech included the capability of adjusting underbody sections to control the distribution of downforce, front to rear. Oldsmobile produced three versions of the original Aerotech to prove the capabilities of the company's Quad 4 engine. Two were short-tailed (ST) versions and one was long-tailed (LT).
[The Oldsmobile Aerotechs were a series of experimental high-speed vehicles created between 1987 and 1992 incorporating the latest in performance technology with the intention of breaking multiple automobile speed records. The first such car was driven by four-time Indy 500 winner A.J. Foyt to a world closed-course speed record of 257.123 mph (413.788 km/h) on 27 August 1987 at the 7.712-mile (12.411 km) test track near Fort Stockton Texas. Prior to this, on 26 August 1987, the car had posted a top speed over a mile of 267.88 mph (431.10 km/h). The car consisted of a March Indycar single seat chassis enclosed in an extremely efficient aerodynamic body shell. It was powered by a highly turbo-charged version of the 2-litre Oldsmobile Quad 4 engine. The Aerotech body was designed by GM Design staff and was one of the sleekest vehicles ever developed for use on a high speed track. The design of the Aerotech included the capability of adjusting underbody sections to control the distribution of downforce, front to rear. Oldsmobile produced three versions of the original Aerotech to prove the capabilities of the company's Quad 4 engine. Two were short-tailed (ST) versions and one was long-tailed (LT).[/i]
Subsequently, between 7 - 15 December 1992, another version of the Aerotech, this time powered by a 4.0 litre Oldsmobile Aurora V8 engine and fitted with lights, broke 47 speed endurance records including the 10000 and 25000 kilometre world speed records. Other national and international speed records ranging from 10 kilometres to 24 hours were accomplished by a team of drivers working 24 hours a day for 8 days. These records were also set at the Fort Stockton test track.[/i]

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I have always been much more partial to smooth lines and curves.



Good point!!


Err... points. Yes, I like those smooth flowing lines.

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This has been sitting out in a field for the last couple of years... It's just a mile from the cottage. I'm wondering how crazy this thing might be? Or, is that just me that's crazy??

http://nmi.craigslist.org/cto/2443614267.html



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No, I'm crazy too!

I revived one 10-15 years ago. It had a gutless inline gas 6. Carb cleaned, brakes purged and off it went.

6x6 with pto out to a huge winch.


We didn't quite understand how the t-case worked or the transmission pattern but it was still fun to fool around with.

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Do you think it's worth the thousand? I'm just sure that I'd sink another couple grand easy into it. Needs some sort of top and bed of some sort. I'll go up and check on the PTO. It is a six cylinder.

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I really don't know much about them. My friend bought his from a widow for less than $200 and it was complete. Just abandoned for 10+ years.
Check it out and call a surplus to price what's missing.
It would be cool to turn it into this:



http://staceydavid.com/projects/sgt-rock

If Rockwell axle, keep for parts or sell.

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It's probably worth 500 bucks just as scrap metal. If it runs, it'll be worth 2 grand. Those trucks also come with V8 diesels, so there would be plenty of room to put whatever you want under the hood. You could do just about anything with it, even paint it yellow. Put a hut on the back and you'd have an RV that could go anywhere.

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Go 6x6 Rving...
I've heard some older generation diesels only need 3 wires to run?



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Pete that "deuce and a 1/2" would be super cool with an 8.1 in it.

Just sayin.

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200 or a grand, there will always be a ton of money going into it - fixing up or even just driving it.....

if you have a plan to do something with it, thats another story...

you can get 250-500 for them axles....

i also believe they have divorced transfer cases, or at least some did - which would let you put anything in there - like a Dmax/Allison set up......

if you just get it running and do nothing with it - PUT IN BETTER SEATS.....

Razz

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if you just get it running and do nothing with it - PUT IN BETTER SEATS.....

Razz


And soundproofing. Those things are loud.

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