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MIMS 2008: Holden & HSV Monaro Vauxhall: stars on the silver screen P-platers: watch out for accidents Look-alikes to tempt tots 29 February 2008
Paul Gover

HSV makes no apologies for full-throttle power in its latest Commodore makeover.
The King Kong of Commodores is being unveiled this morning at the Melbourne Motor Show.


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Holden Special Vehicles has gone all-out for the final celebration of its 20th birthday, creating a car that sets a new performance benchmark in Australian-made motoring.

It is a 7-litre animal with 370kW and 640Nm, and a 0-100km/h time in the supercar league — quicker than five seconds.

The HSV W427 is being revealed on the opening day of the 2008 Melbourne Motor Show, which runs until March 10, and is already cleared for a limited production run of about 200 cars a year at HSV headquarters in Clayton.

HSV makes no apologies for the car, even at a time when fuel economy and social responsibility are gaining importance in motoring, and says it shows what the company can do and what the VE Commodore can become.

“It's certainly the quickest and most powerful HSV car. It's the ultimate expression of what HSV can do,” company managing director Scott Grant says.

“Why are we doing it? Because we can. I've said that before, but it's true.”

The heart of the W427 is the same LS7 V8 engine used in the US in the Chevrolet Corvette, complete with a dry-sump oil system, a unique cold-air intake and an “active” exhaust system, which runs quiet at idle but opens to a bellowing roar at full throttle.

The show car has been painted in Panorama Silver, the same body colour used for the original HSV VL Commodore — nicknamed the Batmobile — 20 years ago and has a red leather interior.

But most people will be struck by the super-aggressive front styling — which lifts the impact of the VE Commodore to a new level — the 20-inch alloy wheels and the carbon-fibre rear spoiler.

The W427 is the second 7-litre concept from HSV, following a race-bred Monaro that never got beyond a good idea.

Only two of the Monaros were built. One is on display at GM Holden headquarters in Fishermans Bend, the other is for sale in Sydney for more than $900,000.

“We got close to launching a 427 Monaro, but it didn't make it through the system, mainly because of technical issues, but also the price was going way, way up to $200,000 and more,” Grant says.

“The VE architecture provides us with the opportunity to do the car properly, allowing us to drop in the higher-performance engines.

“The level of modification and cost of the previous car was out of control, but this time it's relatively affordable.”

Grant is predicting a price about $125,000 and says all W427s will be built in a special new production area at Clayton.

“We still don't know the final price. The car will be available in July for somewhere around $125,000-plus,” he says.

“That price range is not for everybody, but a fair amount of work has gone into the car.

“The interior treatment is different, the transmission is different, the front fascia is completely different. Apart from the engine, there are new wheels, a six-piston braking package, a rear carbon-fibre spoiler.

“There are quite a few differences around the car and that will make it a car that gives a halo to the HSV brand.”

Grant says customers will be encouraged to watch progress as their cars are built.

“The cars really will be very, very special. We are going to build about four a week. And we will only build them to order. We don't have a sales plan as such.

“We will hand-build these cars. They will come from Holden as a GTS and then we will completely hand-build them. There will be no automated production in terms of assembly.

“Customers will have a unique opportunity to get close to their cars. That could mean a webcam for live updates or they can come and watch.”

Grant says HSV has been looking at a 7-litre engine for more than a year, tapping into the American pipeline that has provided engineering support, and will eventually ship complete engines to Australia.

“We're always looking at powertrains. We've been searching for years for a halo product that says what the brand is about.”

But is the W427 appropriate for 2008?

“The answer to that is from an HSV brand point of view, and not just this car. We are a niche company and we appeal to people who appreciate our sort of cars,” Grant says.

“On a small, limited basis I think the W427 is appropriate for our company and our customers.”

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We need a two door coupe. I think they'd sell a lot of those here, but kinda doubt GM will be bringing them over after their disappointment with the GTO here.

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From what I've heard. They were nevergoing to produce another 2 door for the Oz market but pic's of a 2 door G8 were released for the US market.
Basically that same car in that article.
You guys may ne get lucky.

Check this out!

http://concept.holdencampaign.com.au/
This thing was frieking amazing. Usually we get to see spy shots....this was totally unknown. This reveal was the first ANYBODY knew about it.

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Amazing interior. Really well done vehicle. If it does come here, I may alter my retirement plans to allow for another 5 years of monthly payments!

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What did they expect? They overpriced it by about 15 grand, loaded them all up with all the possible options, didn't offer a stripper model with a small V8 or a V6, then wondered why people that could afford 40 grand for a car were more interested in BMWs and Mercedes. Someone that can afford to drop 40 grand on a sports car is NOT going to visit their local Pontiac dealer. Face it, the GTO is a car for the mullets, and mullets aren't going to take on a 700 a month car payment. Right now in my area 2006s are going for 25 grand, 2004s for 15 grand, that's quite a large loss in value over a 4 year period for a limited production car.

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That's a very good point. I wonder if, and when, GM introduces their Chevrolet Camaro if it will offer an LS7 option ala the old COPO type process, making them elusively available and pricey. And, that, in a nutshell is what GM does wrong. You can't be a car maker to the masses and then make your cars too expensive for those masses. What Holden might be able to manage in Australia, would be difficult for the General here. GM's profit concept got all bogged down in production platforms that were multi-vehicle/multi-brand and they sunk themselves with an overall bland product array. They've gotten better at design, but there are still too many "similar" vehicles among the brands they sell. It's self defeating. What if GMC made all the trucks? Chevy made all the passenger cars? Separate Corvette into a new Division and have them make all the sports cars and convertibles? Have Pontiac make all the SUV's? Cadillac make all the cruisers and limos? Buick could make station wagons. Or, just do away with all the brand identities and sell GM Silverados or GM Vibes or GM whatever. That would be a huge shake up. But, I would imagine that they'd just continue to do the same thing that they do now.... come up with production efficiencies to save them money, and then continue to increase the price of cars. Sorry, Howard, didn't mean to go on like that... too much coffee this morning I guess.

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I'd hate to see the names go away. They already tried going to a brand = platform setup, but then they just bled all over the place again. Pontiac was supposed to be the sporty division, Chevy the utility division, Caddy the rich guy division, Buick for the old folks, and GMC for the working man. So far as the Corvette, Camaro and Firebird though, they can only be Chevy and Pontiac, nothing else.

But none of that has anything to do with the core problem, which is that GM is full of themselves. You know they aren't going to sell a car and lose hard money on it, yet they can give 10-15 thousand dollar rebates on certain vehicles. If they can take that big a "loss" then they are overpriced by that much. If they'd just figure in their actual costs and add 10 percent for their own profit and 5 percent for the dealer's profit they'd still make money and we could still afford to buy their cars. And don't get me started about their idea of a warranty.

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No worries Pete...I just posted it up so you guys get to see what GM are upto over here.
I love the Coupe...reckon it looks hot....especially being pillarless.
You're right though...the perception will be that it's way overpriced.
Real problem is, as I see it anyway, people won't spend that sort of money on GM (Holden) when as Jim said, they can have a Merc or Beamer for the same.
As I see it, the Holden is every bit as good, and better than many of the 'Euro' imports but it's stuck with the stigma of being a 'car for the masses'.
For the reason of it being the 'always affordable for anyone car' (regardless of how they market the HSV's - it's not the regular commodore - it's got other 'bits' stuck on it), it'll always be looked at as overpriced.

Howard

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Oh...and as for the LS7 commodore which is being heavily publicised as having the 'Vette' motor and costs n excess of AUD$125,000.00.....why the hell would anyone in their right mind buy that when they can actually have a Vette for that? GMH are trying to cash in on the 'crazed, rich, must have GM at all costs fan' with that one.
Aussie dollar is great at present and it's set to get better (dollar for dollar soon), not like when I first visited the US in 2000 and it was half Hrm .
What was a $300,000.00 Vette 8 years ago is suddenly a $150,000.00 Vette today!

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thats a lot of AU$

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So,this seems shady as hell but just got this email.
Not through my website email either,but my personal playtoy_18 email.
Not sure why they wouldn’t email my website address if they know I have a website,or how they targeted me since I didn’t even post on this topic...?
Name@gmail is the email it was sent from.



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superduper shady if subject has RE:

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