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James B.
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Joined: 03 Apr 1997
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Location: '98GMT400, '98GMT410, 99GMT420
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 502 Photos and Video
I spent yesterday swapping the stock L29 out for the 502. Zero complications.
The 502 specs are:
- GM Gen-VI 502 crate shortblock Part #12568782
- Lunati 54868 Cam, 234/244 and .575/.575" 114ยบ
- Crower Stainless Roller Rockers
- Port-Matched L29 intake Manifold
- 62# Siemens injectors
The day the crate arrived, 6-18-2012:
Some shots of the bottom end:
Oil Pump and Windage Tray:
Rod:
Piston:
L29 Timing Cover, polished:
GM ZZ502 cam vs Lunati 54868 cam:
Valvetrain, opted to run OEM lifters and the softer springs:
Longblock:
Saturday July 21, 2012 during the swap:
Dyno Chart for this engine naturally-aspirated:
Warm start video and a little rev. (5W-30 non-synthetic in the pan for break-in)
http://bertok.us/pics/502/WarmStart.mp4 (3.5MB)
Walkaround vid with engine bay and exhaust:
http://bertok.us/pics/502/WalkAround.mp4 (5.1MB)
Last edited by James B. on Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:21 am; edited 1 time in total
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:11 pm |
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Speeder
Joined: 30 Apr 1999
Posts: 9691
Location: 2000 Silverado Z71 4.9L 4L80E, 2003 Lincoln LS 3.9L V8 5 speed auto
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Nice looking. So where is the L29 going? Might be interesting in that orange thing.
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:12 pm |
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James B.
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Joined: 03 Apr 1997
Posts: 2630
Location: '98GMT400, '98GMT410, 99GMT420
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Hey jim,
The L29 will be left 100% OEM on the stand and be reinstalled for a week ever 2 years to pass smog. Also, since it's dimensionally identical, I will be using it to mock-up and fabricate the supercharger kit that will take the lame 480ish HP to 1000. I've already got a polished 3.3L Whipple and air-to-water intercooler for this task....
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:27 pm |
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Speeder
Joined: 30 Apr 1999
Posts: 9691
Location: 2000 Silverado Z71 4.9L 4L80E, 2003 Lincoln LS 3.9L V8 5 speed auto
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Man, that's gotta suck but at least you have a way around the problem of smog testing. That's one nice thing about Oklahoma, no smogging. And 1000HP? Nice!
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:45 pm |
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Aloicious
Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 2235
Location: 96, C1500, LS31, T56, 24x CNP/LS2 coils, Whipple, 411, EFILive, MPFI, ZZ4, Trutrac, 4.88...etc
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me likey, you should bring it out here to the salt flats and see what she can do...
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| Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:59 pm |
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z71gmc06
Joined: 08 May 2007
Posts: 908
Location: Michigan
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Really nice James. What I wouldn't give for a lame 480 hp.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:05 am |
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Hog
Joined: 11 Dec 2001
Posts: 4301
Location: 1997 Chev ECSB L31 350 1997 GMC Sierra SLE RCSB, Ontario
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Very nice James.
peace
Hog
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:00 pm |
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Chevy 97
Joined: 24 Jan 2012
Posts: 422
Location: 97 K1500 L31 4L60E 14 bolt Tees Alberta
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What is nice is the 550 ftlbs of torque. Looks very good. So far no smog testing here either. Are those the same heads you had on te 540?
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:45 pm |
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Whipped383
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Posts: 1400
Location: Salt Lake, 97K1500,ECSB, 383,Whipple,0411,Marine, 03K2500,CCSB,8.1&Allison, Whipple in progress
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James B. wrote:Hey jim,
The L29 will be left 100% OEM on the stand and be reinstalled for a week ever 2 years to pass smog. Also, since it's dimensionally identical, I will be using it to mock-up and fabricate the supercharger kit that will take the lame 480ish HP to 1000. I've already got a polished 3.3L Whipple and air-to-water intercooler for this task....
Why wont you pass smog with that engine? Dont they just do an OBD2 connect to test? lot of work to do every year for smog. Will the 540 ever be salvaged?
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:55 pm |
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James B.
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Location: '98GMT400, '98GMT410, 99GMT420
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There was nothing left of the 540. It even bent 7 of 8 intake valves - they're all new now. (Same Brodix Race-Rite CNC Ovals the Tahoe's 454 and the Suburban's 540 once had.)
The Bowtie block is cracked on both sides and a mess inside.
The Lunati 4340 4.5" crank is severly mangled.
The Lunati 54868 cam was bent and gnarled up. (Bought another copy for the 502.)
Every piston took damage.
The oil pump drive shaft was sheared.
The oil pump itself was locked.
Two rods were torn apart, the rest were all destroyed as well.
It sheared the cam bolts and stretched the chain.
In summary, the only things salvaged from the head gaskets down were the various NPT plugs, the knock sensors, the reluctor ring, and the timing cover.
I still have (and will retain) CA-OBDII catalytic converters on it.
Rear O2 Sensors functional.
EGR deleted.
A.I.R. deleted.
PCV deleted but may reinstate after fabricating a catch-can.
It's not just an OBD-II plug-in and scan, the test is largely an intense visual scrutiny too, smog testers are not idiots. Except for the fact that is probably only get about 6-7mpg now, it's not spewing out pollutants. It smells pretty clean once the cats are warmed up, honestly.
Makes no difference - I can swap the entire engine and reflash the PCM myself in one day. Two days labor every 2 years is acceptable.
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| Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:48 pm |
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98Blackss
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 789
Location: Native TEXAN living in Colorado; 1998 K1500 RCSB stepside Escalade and GMT800 AWD conversion
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Built in upgrade time every two years!!!!
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:32 pm |
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98Blackss
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Posts: 789
Location: Native TEXAN living in Colorado; 1998 K1500 RCSB stepside Escalade and GMT800 AWD conversion
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You have electric fans on that?
What is your trick for getting the PS pump off so fast?
TJ
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:36 pm |
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James B.
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Joined: 03 Apr 1997
Posts: 2630
Location: '98GMT400, '98GMT410, 99GMT420
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I've never removed a power steering pump for a motor swap! Unbolt the bracket, remove the stud since there isn't room to pull the bracket off the stud anyway, and bungee cord the entire bracket into the corner with power-steering pump attached. I just use a piece of cardboard to prevent damage to the radiator core.
Same sort of trick the the A/C compressor, unbolt it and roll it over to the passenger side.
And now I've found a way to never have to remove the hood again! Unbolt the hood springs and hyper-extend the hood. I tied it off to the roof rack - worked great.
I've also gotten into the habit of jacking the transmission up until it contacts the tunnel, the block can be dropped in right between the bell and motor mounts. Works every time and saves effort.
No electric fans on this one. I'm going to do everything I can to keep the clutch fan, I just don't see electrics as having any real chance of keeping this thing cool.
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:15 pm |
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CrazyHoe
Joined: 19 Feb 2008
Posts: 4646
Location: Mtl; '98 2dr4x4 Tahoe, L31,Hookers Long T, 0411,EFIlive, 4L80-E,dual 3",marine int+inj
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James B. wrote:I've never removed a power steering pump for a motor swap! Unbolt the bracket, remove the stud since there isn't room to pull the bracket off the stud anyway, and bungee cord the entire bracket into the corner with power-steering pump attached. I just use a piece of cardboard to prevent damage to the radiator core.
Cool, I used a thin plywood. I wouldn't trust myself with cardboard.
James B. wrote:
And now I've found a way to never have to remove the hood again! Unbolt the hood springs and hyper-extend the hood. I tied it off to the roof rack - worked great.
Cool, I've unbolted the front bracket bolts and loosened the rear ones but your hood seams to reach further back than mine.
James B. wrote:
I've also gotten into the habit of jacking the transmission up until it contacts the tunnel, the block can be dropped in right between the bell and motor mounts. Works every time and saves effort.
I tried that but the bell keeps interfering with the ring gear. So now, I unbolt the cross member, support the front of the transmission with a bar between the frame rails and slide back the transmission about 1"
Still waiting for the booklet:
How to swap a BBC into the GMT400 for maximum performance
by James B.
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:04 pm |
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irisservice
Joined: 04 May 2009
Posts: 125
Location: Beechhurst,NY
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I want to be your neighbor...1-2 days to swap engine no big deal lol....
What intake is that?
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:25 pm |
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Whipped383
Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Posts: 1400
Location: Salt Lake, 97K1500,ECSB, 383,Whipple,0411,Marine, 03K2500,CCSB,8.1&Allison, Whipple in progress
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Small blocks are alot easier lol no need to lift the hood more than it does on its own. Engine swap in a day?... piece of cake
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:14 pm |
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Boosted-Z71
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 1548
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Very Nice James, Should be a very respectable runner, cant wait to see the FI version
Boosted-Z71
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:32 pm |
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stroker97k1500
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Posts: 2160
Location: Macon Ga., 2001 Z71 GMT800, LQ4, MP112, EFANS
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James B. wrote:I've never removed a power steering pump for a motor swap! Unbolt the bracket, remove the stud since there isn't room to pull the bracket off the stud anyway, and bungee cord the entire bracket into the corner with power-steering pump attached. I just use a piece of cardboard to prevent damage to the radiator core.
Same sort of trick the the A/C compressor, unbolt it and roll it over to the passenger side.
And now I've found a way to never have to remove the hood again! Unbolt the hood springs and hyper-extend the hood. I tied it off to the roof rack - worked great.
I've also gotten into the habit of jacking the transmission up until it contacts the tunnel, the block can be dropped in right between the bell and motor mounts. Works every time and saves effort.
No electric fans on this one. I'm going to do everything I can to keep the clutch fan, I just don't see electrics as having any real chance of keeping this thing cool.
What temp Thermostat are you running? The hypertech 160 deg works a whole hello of a lot Better than 180/190deg hot
Box does. the Electric fans actually work better at idle(for me) than the clutch fan did. And if you stagger them one coming on
At 180 then the other at 190 it Always stays cool. But you have enough
Power not to worry really
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| Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:46 pm |
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foreverfalcon40
Joined: 06 May 2009
Posts: 447
Location: NY
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Just beautiful!
Sounds like the old engine went to war and lost...wtf happened to it?
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| Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:52 am |
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James B.
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Posts: 2630
Location: '98GMT400, '98GMT410, 99GMT420
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The 540 broke a rod bolt and then all hell broke loose. Was rolling down the highway at 2200 RPM just cruising when that happened. From tapping, to knocking, to BOOM literally within 3 seconds. The magnitude and impact sound and jolt of the destruction was impressive.
It's got a 180-degree thermostat in it. I'm a little concerned about running it too cool, being that t has forged pistons and siamesed bores. 180 is as low as I'll go. Stock 195 might actually be better for this...
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